My old statesman it's alive once again

Well the 17.5 Briggs is alive. Again but there is a few problems at I have one of the come in the mail and it be the 2 and it has now a new stator with diode and it has ground wire issues git hot untill the coating



melts . And it is wired for push button start and toggle kill switch and the toggle switch is turn up side down and the toggle switch has a lil light build in

And it will run as long as I pour gas down the breather hole but the new carb will be the 2 as I mentioned in the beginning of this. And thanks to the people of the forum for the advice and there information and I used this wiring diagram

Alive with a few problems is better that dead.

@bairleafarm Basically the only issue is the ground cable git hot and it melts the coating off the wire and the carb is the most issue I haveing with it but the new carb will be the 2nd . And I done put a new stators and coil and that fix but the ground wire is mostly the problem now is figuring out why the ground cable is gitting hot.

Hillbilly mowers wrote:

figuring out why the ground cable is getting hot.

Sometimes that's as simple as a loose or dirty connection.

@Bairleafarm IV check the connection point and there all tight and the wire diagram I posted is the one I used and I got it from YouTube off of Todd Christopher fearless front then come to find out the same diagram is here on the forum to to. After I done a lot research on this engine.

The ground wire getting hot and melting the insulation tells me there's a short somewhere, that ground wire goes from the battery to where exactly? Are there any other wires attached to it?

Also, if you're using the toggle switch that has a light as a kill switch you won't be able to make it light up unless it's wired to a 5 pin relay without causing a short circuit. Get your hands on one of these (with the harness) and I'll draw you out a diagram how to wire it so the switch works right side up, with the light, as an igntion/kill switch. It can actually be wired so the push start button won't work unless the switch is up and the light is on!

The kill switch should have no power whatsoever to it. I know you would like for it to light, but when you add power to it, your essentially running power to ground through the magneto coil. That could be why you are melting the ground.

Also, throw you a fuse in there between the alternator and solenoid. See if it blows. 20 amp maybe.

@MightyRaze that's exactly right I bought a cheap kill switch and where you're supposed to hook it to the coils it back fed charge and burnt my coils up (only difference is mine was a key switch)

@brainator and @mightyraze an @ranchkingproo8 the kill is wire from the coil to the kill switch and then to the frame and here is pic of the back side an di I heard u had to flip the upside down for the to work right and rcg was the one saif u had to flip them upside down for them to work

And the green wire is my ground to the frame and the yellow wires gose to the coil.

@brainator what about


these the 2nd I got more and the 3 Rd pic is the size of the 2nd one

You don't HAVE to flip it upside down for it to work, it will just be upside down as to how you want it UNLESS you file down the little tab inside the flapper hole and turn the switch around!


Coil to switch then to ground is right BUT unless your switch is different than mine then you have to move the wire from the side of the switch and put it on the bottom with the other, that's the actual circuit. The wire on the side should be marked as ground which is only for when you use the light (which you can't do yet). Mine has posts with the 2 bottom ones listed as 12v and light with the ground on the side.

Yes those relays would work perfect! Ignore the wiring diagram for now, it needs to be setup differnt for a kill wire

@brainator thank u so much I will order them in a few days when my check hit my card I'll git the set of 20 cause there not bad for the price

@brainator it's the same man I just file the lil tab thang out and flip it like redneck computer geek said to do and I done it all the same as what they said Todo and I followed the diagram post in the pic and here on the forum.

It would take you years to go through 20 so if you see a smaller pack for way cheaper that's the better option.

Fearless Fronts diagram is good, I mean the diagram in the relay pictures, for you it needs to be wired slightly differently. I'll get something drawn up and when you're ready just holler! Lol

@brainator thanks man I will when I git the relays in and I'll look for a cheaper pack of the same and the 20 pack is 8 bucks and some changes from ebay

Wow $8!? Geeze I haven't even found a 5 pack for that so heck I'd go for it myself! Lol.

And the newest add to the statesman.



I just have weld the adapter plate up and it is ready to mount on the steering rod.

That's wild man I like it!

@brainator yea man it will be by time I'm done with it and I'm also swapping in a peerless 820 here in a few days to.

Brianator wrote:

The ground wire getting hot and melting the insulation tells me there's a short somewhere, that ground wire goes from the battery to where exactly? Are there any other wires attached to it?

Also, if you're using the toggle switch that has a light as a kill switch you won't be able to make it light up unless it's wired to a 5 pin relay without causing a short circuit. Get your hands on one of these (with the harness) and I'll draw you out a diagram how to wire it so the switch works right side up, with the light, as an igntion/kill switch. It can actually be wired so the push start button won't work unless the switch is up and the light is on!

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It was factory mounted with the starter sylinoid as in the picture
My old statesman it's alive once again

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@BairleaFarm @MightyRaze @Brianator I  am retiring it for now and holding off until the 2024 build off so for now I am hold back on it and just playing with my hydros Alil now but until then Im holding back on the statesman for the build off but just now what u see now want be in the build off to come .

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