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PostSubject: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2018, 8:16 pm

I picked this pile of scrap for 50 bucks, i wanted the 633 out of it and the blade.
It was a mess the 633 full of water, the mounting bolts were all stripped out, the 10hp Tecumseh snowblower engine was full of water and connecting rod made a racket.

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pulled the 633 to lock it, sears - 74 Franken Sears  2429134702 everything was seized, couldn't pull the brake off or one of the hubs i ended up snapping it( still looking for one) i heated up the cast and welded it back together so far so good, drilled and heli coiled the mounting holes and said screw it for now and put it back in the tractor.
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2018, 8:25 pm

So now a new plan( after watch you guys on the build off)

-Replace Motor with another 10hp i have laying around until i find somthing better
- stretch the front, front suspension coil overs, wider front axle
- rear suspension (half leaf or full not sure yet)
- bumpers front and rear, lights because i like to see
- Atv tires 26" rear, not sure of the front yet
- winch because these things are heavy
- beef up steering
- better seat mount, combined with a tool/rope box
- build a grill and hood
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2018, 8:28 pm

Sounds like a good plan to me. sears - 74 Franken Sears  2731072446 sears - 74 Franken Sears  102878487
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2018, 8:42 pm

Tear down
old engine off, this thing is haggard lol  
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Ok should work, had to use the seat spring on the other sears because i keep breaking them, this sould work for now before i build the box sears - 74 Franken Sears  20180323
Dash has seen better days
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2018, 9:16 pm

Man this tractor is in rough shape. I like how you’re saving it.
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2018, 9:27 pm

Crazy_Carl wrote:
Man this tractor is in rough shape.  I like how you’re saving it.

Ya forsure, these things are tanks there worth saving, this one is not going to look like a sears but the bones are good.

I would like to find a wheel horse like the one your have. you can't beat the old garden tractors for being built to last
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:16 pm

so this what im thinking for the front,the control arms will be parallel with each other, with a track bar and coils over the front
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It's a mock up i didnt want to cut anthing yet.

or move the front axle back underneath and cut the frame and extend it 8-10"
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:24 pm

Ooh! going for a parallel 4-link I see! Nice! Are you gonna put wrists in the link bars? Without joints on the end there won't be any flex.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:32 pm

You could still use those mounting tabs on the Sears axle and put in some heim joints or rod ends. I like the mock up you have started here.
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:36 pm

@AllisKidD21 oh i see what your saying yes there will be, this is just ideas,

@ Crazy_Carl yes that's the plan so far for the mounts and joints


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:38 pm

Having it in front of the frame would allow for more travel I would think, kind of like a rock bouncer. Would look pretty cool!
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:44 pm

CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
Having it in front of the frame would allow for more travel I would think, kind of like a rock bouncer. Would look pretty cool!
Yes exactly, it would be better i think, i dont really want to move the engine forword. but then again I wouldn't be hitting things that hard to utilize all that travel it would be the look cool factor .
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:46 pm

Ok cool, just wanted to let ya know haha. I really look forward to seeing this come together! With all the Sears you see I'm surprised you don't see more with suspension.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:49 pm

AllisKidD21 wrote:
Ok cool, just wanted to let ya know haha. I really look forward to seeing this come together! With all the Sears you see I'm surprised you don't see more with suspension.

Ya and i have a plan for the rear too
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:51 pm

Oooh? A parallel 4-link on the rear as well would be a super neat setup.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 8:56 pm

AllisKidD21 wrote:
Oooh? A parallel 4-link on the rear as well would be a super neat setup.
That it would but i would be sitting to high up and then i would have to extend track width or ill will tip more then i do now.

i was thinking a 1.5 to 2" travel just to help the body out, full length leaf or maybe a half leaf
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 9:03 pm

By half leaf do you mean like a 1/4 elliptical setup? That would be really cool. I'm planning in a 1/4 elliptic setup with a 1-link on the front of my GT 6000, hopefully hahaha.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 9:10 pm

like this but opposite with the spring
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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 9:16 pm

Yup, that looks like the makings of a 1/4 elliptic triangulated 4-link setup. That's what I'm going for but with a 1-link setup.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 9:30 pm

@AllisKidD21 ya i wouldnt go 4 link, a track bar would be fine, your not putting 400 foot pounds of torque out of  it


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 9:33 pm

Yeah a track bar is neccessary with most solid axle suspension setups, otherwise you have your axle going every which way, haha.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeMarch 20th 2018, 10:35 pm

Really like where this is going. very nice.


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PostSubject: Re: 74 Franken Sears    sears - 74 Franken Sears  Icon_minitimeJuly 4th 2018, 9:44 pm

Well the project has been put on hold until I find more parts, but on a side note i just pick up a Murry for 20 bucks it has a 18hp Briggs , not sure about the transaxle but man is it dinky compared to my 663's

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