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PostSubject: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 2:22 pm

I’m stalking a couple of old mowers in the neighborhood. I still don’t have an answer on this one but I would like to know what it is.

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I have asked about this one too, but he isn’t ready to turn loose of it. JD Green…

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 2:31 pm

MTD built, could go under a few different names such as a Sears Craftsman LT10/11, a fella here has an orange Montgomery Ward that was identical to it. Check out MTD model 134-618-599


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 2:34 pm

Thanks! 

Is a White an MTD?
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 2:38 pm

White Outdoor was purchased by MTD in 1981. So I guess if this tractor is post 1981 that would be an MTD?

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 3:03 pm

Oh my! The manual for the MTD you quoted says it has a Peerless 813b transaxle. The people where it is sitting work shift work and I couldn’t raise anyone today. I did ask and was told maybe the other day. Now I have to push this.
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 3:10 pm

well id stalk their house till they get ready for work or find their days off LOL. that seems like a good tractor. i do have to say them MTD chassis are light and a good starter chassis for a basic trail rig

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 3:23 pm

Chances are it has VariDrive with a peerless 910 f/r diff, there were so many variations of that tractor though so it's hard to know without an actual model number, my Warhorse is one of them. That style was made anywhere from about 1979/80 up until 86/87ish I believe. If it's anything like mine it's worth trying to get your hands on, the chassis is decent, the steering seems really rugged and the front axle is much better than the normal stamped ones you see.


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 5:18 pm

When you guys say stamped, do you mean the crappy hollow ones that are on cheap MTD's?
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 5:29 pm

Yes exactly, @Budget_gokarts RestoMod BO tractor had one (before he replaced it), check it out for reference.

The axle on The Warhorse is different and although also hollow is more rugged.


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeJanuary 31st 2022, 6:04 pm

I know you can make strong ones if you use thicker steel but the ones on the MTD's are less than 1/8 inch steel. ( The better ones are cast iron)
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 3:24 pm

I finally managed to contact the owner of the old mower today. They gave it to me. It is a Wizard/MTD, FNR transmission and gutted engine (no head or flywheel). But all the sheet metal is straight and the rust is superficial. I hauled it home and put it in the ‘new junkyard’. (I am moving all my ‘spares’ to a place that isn’t so visible from the road to make the yard look better. Gotta keep momma happy)
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 3:39 pm

Nice, good score! I came across one today at the salvage yard that's just another iteration of it (and mine) and luckily was able to score the motor mount bushings from it for The Warhorse! I really wish I knew what to classify this model/style as besides just calling it a "square body", there's seems to be so many of them rebranded. Might need to start a thread on them! Lol
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My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



                             Click Here To See The DIY and Build Threads I've Created!

                                            ~My Real Hobby Is Collecting Projects!~

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 3:48 pm

I’m hunting a manual for it now. I have some ideas but I need to go out and take a few pics including the data tag. (It is still on there)
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 4:06 pm

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Try this out, I'm pretty sure this is what yours is based on the shifter and pedal location. Mine is C459-60311 which are Canadian model numbers, mine is a year older and has a slightly different shifter setup


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



                             Click Here To See The DIY and Build Threads I've Created!

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 4:16 pm

Did you get the engine shroud with it? The Model and Code numbers will help narrow it down


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



                             Click Here To See The DIY and Build Threads I've Created!

                                            ~My Real Hobby Is Collecting Projects!~

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 4:50 pm



My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



                             Click Here To See The DIY and Build Threads I've Created!

                                            ~My Real Hobby Is Collecting Projects!~

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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 4:51 pm

Brianator wrote:
Nice, good score! I came across one today at the salvage yard that's just another iteration of it (and mine) and luckily was able to score the motor mount bushings from it for The Warhorse! I really wish I knew what to classify this model/style as besides just calling it a "square body", there's seems to be so many of them rebranded. Might need to start a thread on them! Lol
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I’m going to start an MTD Square Body thread now.
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PostSubject: Re: What is this? Help please.    What is this? Help please.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2022, 5:06 pm

No engine shroud. Just the block basically.

I found a manual and am trying to figure out how to upload it here for reference.

Thanks for the info!
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