Snapper 4X4

i have wanted to do this for a long . long . long time so i got a frame and am going to make it four wheel drive

uploading videos of my little 50cc mini quad and the snapper, i dont have an engine, but plan on building the frame first anyway the swapping the 11hp from my rally, just to see if it works and then get another for the rally....

first thing that is planned to happen is mount the gearbox that is on it sideways in the center of the frame, then run two drive shafts to two identical transaxles with BIG tyres.. this with a 5 speed thats on it in the middle will allow 5 + reverse gears on the move around, although the two transaxles will allow another 5 gears , making 25 forward gears and 5 reverse! allowing me to speed down my road OR going crawling offroad...

the only problem is the steering which i cant think of any help would be appreciated! im going to post pics a little later but i have posted a video of my snapper and quad; https://www.youtube.com/user/bigbleuboy

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this sounds cool.
sounds like it will be like a transfercase on a truck. i like this build

thanks dude!

here are some pictures

dis is ma snapper


first thing i did when i got it home was take the deck off! i have no experience with this kind of thing so it took a while



the steering setup looks near identical to the AL-KO mudding tractor on here!



and finally one last one with the hood off



biggest problem i can see is between the steering and/or the identical transaxle's...

again i ask please can i get ideas for the steering! THANKS

im pretty sure its a peerless "sameasmyotherone" transaxle.

not sure what you mean cause i think that the diff on the front would mean that the front would be spinning at the same speed constant ally meaning that the it would scrape on the ground, dunno, i think ill explain my idea better...

turn a transaxle, locked, in the center turned sideways, then attach two drive shafts to either end then run them to two identical transaxle's allowing alot more gear variations, they would be fixed at an angle reducing stress on the drive shaft. the steering will most likely be the hard part but if i put two U pieces of metal onto the transaxle and run two "mini" driveshafts to the wheels.... better ideas welcome!

yeh! i thought that would be the best way to get gears and axles too

Only real issue i see is youd have to somehow make 3 shifter levers all acessable - or crawl underneath to change em.

To run a driveshaft to the front/rear transmissions, youd need to mount the transmissions straight up and down instead of horizontal .

Cool idea tho.

i would only make the center gear lever accesible and the other two would be crawl-time

i have realized that the transaxle one the snapper is toast, ill open it up at my uncles tonight or at the weekend although im not hopeful, i have made a request in the wanted section for 3 transaxle's, one with as many gears as possible for the centre and two that are identical ones for the axles front and rear.....

if you know anyone with such a thing then ill pay max £50 including shipping, but frees always good!!!!

What's wrong with the tranny? Could be rebuildable!

http://tinyurl.com/34mrmpy

Looks for those on ebay, theyre tough axles and come up alll the time! SHame to see so many westwoods being parted out though! I have 4 of them, tough machines!

how much money do you think ill have to spend? and if you have could you sell me some, keep money circulating in the forum

what do you mean by balancing? i just thought connect any-old piece of metal to either end and that would do...

mmm yeh cant get anything cheap here, everyone is to stuck up to just give stuff away, or the attitude of "O i can fix that"

ahh well.....

bigbleuboy wrote:

mmm yeh cant get anything cheap here, everyone is to stuck up to just give stuff away, or the attitude of "O i can fix that"

ahh well.....

Yup! Exactly the same with me. My mates dad (hes a farmer, says it all really!) has an old westwood thats does work sitting in a barn, and wont sell it to me! Its just rotting away. The deck was savable first time I saw it, now theres not much left of it!

Farmers have that " i can always use that for something" attitude - i tried to get my dads cousin's husband to sell me one of the snowmobiles he's had sitting in his garage for over 10 years - he was like " nope" - theyd rather let them sit and rot away then sell them.

dam i feel sympathetic i've done stuff like that before....

So you want something like this?

That would be awsome for a 4x4- id hate to see how much one costs tho....looks like a basically stock trans with those universal ends on em ( like a bolt on affair) ...hmm gives me an idea of attempting to make one...sometime....

wow i say if i could get 2 of them then i would have 4 wheel turning!!!!!!!!!!

YEA I WANT THEM

EDIT: just found two exact same peerless 5 transaxle s both come with tyres although the tyres are different

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westwood-sit-lawn-mower-axle-gear-box-and-wheels-/230479775749?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenPowerTools_CA&hash=item35a9aa4805#ht_500wt_1154

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ride-mower-Peerless-5-Speed-Gear-Box-Axel-Tyres-/320538360586?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenPowerTools_CA&hash=item4aa1933b0a#ht_500wt_1154

now i just need an income!

I hear that! Money is the main issue here. But 4wd would be awesome. Couldnt you sell your soul or something?

Ropertractor14 wrote:

So you want something like this?

Sweet!

right was out last night, trying to get the axle off the tractor to see how i would mount it.... but i wouldn't come off so im going out in a moment to try again, hopefully ill have more luck this time

kk guys i found the transmission and were to buy it. i think im gonna go for it and put it on torque. for 250$ i think its a good deal.

http://www.billphil.com/product_info.php?pName=peerless-4-wheel-steer-transaxle-craftsman&cName=transaxles-hyd-mechanical&osCsid=41b4eb75e92b5030e084e77c196e6cff

hey dude awesome, wish i had that to spend! you will have to get a video of it running so i can get ideas for it, i want to find parts for it (just the steering part though)

i have stripped the mower down but am going away at the weekend so wont have any updates till then!